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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by LadySaturn » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:39 pm

I don't trust the :badword: government, period. Limey Bastards..

Speaking of which has anyone seen Dark Saturn... She growled something about D.C. and then went MIA.

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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by MJPease » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:12 am

Hello LadySaturn, I didn't know the government was a bunch of English Sailors eating Limes while spending months at sea to prevent rickets :lol: I have not seen Dark Saturn :shrug: Take Care
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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by MJPease » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:54 am

Summer Vacation/Politics, so much in common especially when our politicians seem to always be on vacation. Playing stupid little games for 21 hours on the house floor, achieving nothing as if just wasting 21 hours on vacation. What the mind of man can conceive she so can achieve. These mindless Men and Woman can not conceive anything beyond their own egos. They represent themselves and their own ambitions or the 1% with the big bucks. They feel and see the 1% to be their salvation their ticket to success. Dreaming of the trickle down trickling Diamonds and Gold to the hard working class who can then go out and buy there own health insurance. Screw those that get chewed up along the way. Life is not fair Who ever said it was fair. Cut back workers comp the 1% needs more to invest in jobs. Cut back food stamps people are too fat anyway and their on drugs. Increase corporate welfare with these cuts so that the 1% can create more jobs.
I believe that Corporate welfare most of the time gets used to eliminate the Human Factor. Such as in the automotive industry advances in robotic technology reduces the need for manual labor. Machines in a medical lab reduce the need for lab techs and on and on. Lets face it the week link in the business world for the most part is the human factor. Are we becoming obsolete? The trend for the last decade has been "Doing More With Less. I don't think there will ever be a huge demand for labor without the government being the #1 employer. Well I've gotten a bit long winded here (venting) LOl I have a Dr's appointment got to go. Take Care
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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by Eternum 1 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:26 am

Why some Americans show such disdain for those less fortunate is beyond my understanding Mike. The affordable health care act doesn't change anything for people who already have health care through their employers. It just provides health care for those who through circumstance have lost jobs or are disabled or raising small children on their own. Why low income republicans oppose it is a mystery. So is their opposition to food stamps and school lunch programs. Yet most of these cretins identify themselves as Christian patriots. Their corporate masters on the other hand, know exactly what they are doing and care about their workers about as much as Assad cares about poor people in Syria. The funny thing is that a lot of these same Americans think they too will be rich one day (lottery winners no doubt). Idiots.
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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by bags123 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:26 am

Not all Christians are Cretins and idiots,....but they are well represented within the congregation. :mrgreen:
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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by MJPease » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:13 am

Very well said ET, Hello bags, I thought about you the other night when I heard Bill Clinton say that Coca Cola is the master of world wide distribution. He was talking about the clean water initiative and it would take someone like Coca Cola to be able to deliver clean water to almost all parts of the globe. That's a serious compliment and you are part of that team. Wow! That's a whole lot of plastic my friend. That's a great humanitarian project by the way getting clean water to Human Beings that would otherwise die a miserable slow death with out. Take Care
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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by Eternum 1 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:17 pm

bags123 wrote:Not all Christians are Cretins and idiots,....but they are well represented within the congregation. :mrgreen:
It seems the new Pope is a exception as well, focusing on the poor and hungry as central themes for church doctrine. How refreshing if words translate into action.
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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by LadySaturn » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:16 am

No one in D.C. truly knows what a Christian is, let alone how to be or act as one. :soapbox: :soapbox:

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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by Gillian » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:50 am

MJPease wrote:Hello LadySaturn, I didn't know the government was a bunch of English Sailors eating Limes while spending months at sea to prevent rickets :lol: I have not seen Dark Saturn :shrug: Take Care
I'm sure LS meant Slimy instead of Limey. Limes were used to prevent scurvy not rickets. Rickets is a lack of Vitamin D. In view of my extended absence from the boards, my failure to uphold my role as Chancellor, I can't, in all good conscience, hand out detentions.

I wonder what sucking on an egg was used to prevent? Free colouring books and crayons on offer.

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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by Eternum 1 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:42 am

The phrase "to suck eggs" was a metaphor for useless advice.
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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by MJPease » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:38 am

Hello Gillian, My Dear Chancellor I'm so embarrassed :oops: If you're in charge of detention I volunteer :bow:
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From: Summers Discontent 7-24-02

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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by gordy » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:31 pm

to say the affordable care act effects no one with insurance now is false. my company used to employ 138 people now it is around 88-89 all the rest of the work is supplemented by part time workers and sub contractors who do not have insurance. several of the people working for the subcontractors used to work for us but were layed off or fired. when they worked for us they had insurance (and other benefits), now they DO NOT. our insurance has gone way up and they told us during the insurance meeting it would have been cheaper for the company to just take the penalty from obama care and not offer insurance at all but they decided against it. i know my company isn't alone. to try and say that people who are against the affordable care act are against poor people is divisive and innaccurate. but im just a stupid american who has occasionally voted republican so what do i know :thumbsup:
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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by Eternum 1 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:53 pm

gordy wrote:to say the affordable care act effects no one with insurance now is false. my company used to employ 138 people now it is around 88-89 all the rest of the work is supplemented by part time workers and sub contractors who do not have insurance. several of the people working for the subcontractors used to work for us but were layed off or fired. when they worked for us they had insurance (and other benefits), now they DO NOT. our insurance has gone way up and they told us during the insurance meeting it would have been cheaper for the company to just take the penalty from obama care and not offer insurance at all but they decided against it. i know my company isn't alone. to try and say that people who are against the affordable care act are against poor people is divisive and innaccurate. but im just a stupid american who has occasionally voted republican so what do i know :thumbsup:
That's odd losing all those jobs, since the act hasn't kicked in yet. Maybe they told you different (whoever "they" are). But perhaps you are right, and America is too poor to implement health care like other countries have; like it's too poor to feed and educate it's children or protect them in the classroom from unstable people with access to guns but not mental health.

Your company is using the same people as sub-contractors that used to work for them in order to avoid paying them benefits of any kind. Nice people, you work for. Are they related to Sam Walton of Wal Mart by any chance? As much chance of getting into heaven as a camel through the eye of a needle, if I'm not mistaken about the quote apllicable here. Somehow I don't think the Kochs and Limbaugh and Trump among the leaders opposing affordable health care heed that warning or follow the maxim as "as you do unto the least of these" or"I am my brothers keeper".

Let's face it. If Republicans wrote the bible. They'd have Jesus bailing out the money lenders in the temple and throw out the poor, sick and lame instead.

Maybe Canada should include America in its foreign aid', along with some charitable missionaries and doctors without borders. Oh I almost forgot we actually do send nursing and doctor volunteers to the US to participate in free clinics. It's ok for them to go since Canada has universal health care and somehow we haven't lost a single job because of it.
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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by MJPease » Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:46 am

Hello ET, Your comments just reminded me of an oddity I've personally experienced here in Buffalo NY. My wife and I have both been treated by Physicians who are Canadian that have left their practices in Canada in order to avoid the pitfalls of socialized medicine. In fact one of them was recently very vocal about how bad the affordable care act was going to be. Of course he didn't mention if it was going to be bad for him wearing 1300.00 shoes or me wearing 100.00 shoes but he definitely was not happy about it. I think that a lot of employers are telling folks that whatever negativity takes place in the workplace is because of the affordable care act. Hey! This is a great time to lay people off cut back on health care plans and benefits etc. Let the Presidents affordable healthcare act take the hit. The reason I say this is I was talking to a person who works for a large corporation who told me that her family health plan is going to have a much higher deductible next year. As we talked, it came out that the changes were probably do to the fact that there was a big change in how much coverage the company was willing to pay (changed insurance co.) and a huge drop in the # they needed to insure do to downsizing. The first thought that comes to mind of course is the affordable care act. After the dust settles Canada might get back some of the great Doc's that flew the coup for greener pastures. Take Care
Take me back, so far back, adjust this fate. Afeared lately of pen, in abscence of light. The fear I might stumble upon a plagiarized soul. Wipe this dark slate clean, regain my thought. Add the words that rekindle my depth of soul.

From: Summers Discontent 7-24-02

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Re: Summer Vacation

Post by Eternum 1 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:38 am

Average pay for GPs in Canada is 350- 400K per year. They can easily double that in the US and some specialists often make well over six figures in the home of the free and land of the brave. Lots of our nurses have moved down to private clinics for the same reason.

No wonder your health insurance is the most expensive in the world considering the profits going out not only to medical staff but insurance company execs as well.

My doctor is doing quite well on his pittance of 350 thousand per year. Has put 3 boys through college and is currently on a year long sabbatical travelling Europe while younger physicians assume his duties. Yeah tough life being a doctor in Canada.
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